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The Classic Seat

 

                  

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If you are new to riding you may find this constant talk of your seat confusing.  It is rare indeed that an instructor will explain what they mean by your seat and how they will proceed to develop it.  Partly this is for practical reasons; people start lessons for a variety of reasons, so there's not a lot of incentive to discuss theory with those not really interested because they're just going on a couple of treks or want to just be proficient enough to know the head from the tail of the horse.   But there is also the problem of teaching in which any student can only take on board a limited number of new ideas, so instructors tend to dive in with the basics of making sure you don't fall off and some of the theory gets put aside and often simply not brought up again, leaving the novice-intermediate student a little confused.
 
So here it is.  When referring to your seat this means both to the entire mechanism by which you are attached to the horse and specifically to your backside.  To be more particular your seat refers to any part of your bum, pelvis and upper thighs that connects directly with the saddle.  To be ultra correct there is a specific area of your pelvis\bum known as the 'triangle of the seat' and this is in itself a subject of some argument amongst purists.  For many the triangle is your seatbones and the upper thigh bones creating a sort of tripod upon which you sit, for others this triangle is the two seatbones and the coccyx\tailbone (which doesn't actually sit on the saddle at all) and yet others from the 'classical' school the seat is formed from the two seatbones and the pubic bones.  So you can see why an instructor would avoid the topic with novices, particularly if they are not sure of the topic themselves.
 
Suffice it to say that the seat bones are the two core points of contact for your body on the saddle and when referring to your seat your instructor is talking about how your pelvis is connecting with the horse and the overall picture of how you are sitting on the horse.  When you get instructions like 'sit deeper'*, which frankly are so unhelpful as to be laughable, what is usually meant is to open your hips wider, relax your legs\knees more to enable your pelvic floor to have more contact with the saddle  and perhaps even sit back a little more (bring your ear-hip-heel back into alignment). 
 
The most important aspect of the seat is that you understand where your seat bones are and the ear-hip-heel alignment.
 
*As you progress to more advanced levels some of these instructions will have different meanings, in advanced dressage for example you can indeed sit deep or light or forward etc as you master weight aids but this page is intended for beginners to intermediate riders.  There are many books which will explain the riders seat for the more advanced rider.
 
 
Finding your seat bones is easy and important.  Everything about your seat requires you to know where your seat bones are and later to feel connected to your horse through them.  So lets perform a simple exercise to find them.  First off the horse - find a chair or stool with a firm seat or better yet the arm of the sofa to sit on.  You want to be sitting as if in the saddle if possible.  With a firm object simply sit upright and wiggle your bottom a little - you'll feel two bones almost directly under your hips.  If you can't, stay seated but lift up your legs as far as you can in front of you as if you are a jockey - you should now feel them.  If you have ever ridden a bicycle you should be well aware of these bones, as these are the bones that rest on the bicycle seat. 
 
Take care that you understand the difference between your seat bones, which are located in alignment with your spine and your pubic bones which are at the front fork of your pelvis and will hit the saddle if you tip forward.  These are not intended to take weight and will cause you a great deal of pain if you are continually hitting them, this is a fault known as riding on the fork, and you will find your instructor constantly telling you to sit back.  Next time you are in the saddle, find your seat bones again before beginning your lesson - if you can't clearly feel them, ask your instructor to hold your horse while you again bring your legs up and forward into the jockey position until you can feel them under you - then lower your legs without moving your pelvis to ensure that you remain sitting on your seat bones.
 
 
If you are receiving lessons your instructor will at first physically put you into this alignment and later give you clues regading which 'bits' of your anatomy are breaking out of formation.  Often this is a simple - heels back, shoulders back type of instruction and although this is sufficient for starters, there are significant problems with this type of instruction.  The problem being that if you don't know how to feel when your alignment is correct anytime your instructor does not correct you, you'll think you're ok and this may lead to bad habits.  Additionally, while they may point out your biggest fault, others may go unnoticed and again form bad habits that are hard to break later on.
 
First lets clarify that 'hip' means approx the point of your hip bone - this is because your seatbones are in the same alignment and that's what we really want as your centre of gravity.  Second the alignment should be vertical, just having them in a line isn't right - don't be fooled by the many photos of top level riders you see leaning back - its not ideal and their instructors would probably be trying to correct this fault.
 
So lets look at the simplest way to check your alignment. Sit on your horse in your 'best' position, seat bones firmly sitting on the saddle.  Now for starters where is your head? Can you turn your head and is it directly over your shoulder? or is your neck making it stick out over your chest?  OK, so bring your neck up and back so that your head is balanced correctly over your neck and now your ear and shoulder should be in correct alignment - you'll probably find that this automatically corrects your shoulder\chest too!
 
So lets try that again, with your head correctly balanced on your neck (back, up and chin tucked in a little) so that your ear and shoulder are aligned - use your eyes to look down to your feet.  Try to use your eyes only, rather than tilting your body over to one side or the other.  You should be able to directly confirm your ear\shoulder\hip\heel alignment for yourself and what's more doing this exercise tends to help you correct yourself since your upper body must grow taller in order for you to look down over your shoulder.  Do it 2 or 3 times on both sides and adjust your legs by letting them hang down (try pushing your knee down from your hips) and back.
 
Once you're happy, walk on and repeat the exercise at the walk.  Now have someone from the ground check you.  If you're cheating and moving as your look, retry the exercise with a spotter from the ground - try to fix in your mind the exact feel of sitting correctly and what you need to do to check your alignment.  Once you have this down correctly you can use it at anytime to check your position with or without your instructor - if you are corrected with a 'heels back' or other simple instruction, take the opportunity to check that the rest of your alignment is correct - often one piece of the puzzle is pushed out by something seemingly unrelated.  Your instructor may see your leg creeping forward but you should know that it is your shoulders slumped or whatever and correct the cause not the symptom.
 
Here you can see me pretty close to the correct alignment, If I perform my little exercise and bring my neck back in order to look down over my shoulder it will bring my upper body up a little taller and let my leg stretch down and back a little more.  You can tell that I am sitting back on my seat bones because my rather large backside is tucked under me. 
 
 
The trick of course is to maintain your alignment in all paces (photo below shows the trot)
 
 
On This Page
Finding your seat bones

Finding the correct alignment

Legs

Moving with the horse

 

 
the correct seat
 
 
 
Legs
 
 
When riding in the correct position you should feel a stretch through the front of the hips and down the thigh itself.  Your knees and ankles will also be placed into new positions and have considerable strain put on them to be supple.  But don't fall into the trap of thinking that you are performing ballet, although your legs are stretching out around the horse, your toes should be pointing forwards not out.  This means that your legs are also twisting inwards a little, as if pigeon toed but the turn starts at the hip.  To prove this, try sitting cross-legged on the floor after you have dismounted next time - your knees will feel the stretch in a totally different direction.  Although you will be tempted to concentrate on your lower legs, it is the hip and knee that allows your legs to hang correctly, particularly your hips. 
 

Practice your position off the horse by performing little 'squats'.  Bend your knees a little, feet approx. 2 feet wide knees point downwards. Let your pelvis drop and rotate so that your butt tucks under you and your lower belly rotates upward.  Your hips should be loose and wide, your stomach should push down slightly (meeting the upward rotation of your pelvis).  Let your upper body float above your pelvis, your shoulders aligned directly above your hips, your arms hang loosely from your shoulder and let your hands sit in front of your belly button.


More important than the leg contortions, which will come with time and practice, try to make sure that your seat (your hips, upper thighs and bum) remain in the saddle when you apply your leg aids.  By this I mean that normally when you attempt to squeeze with your lower leg or 'slap'', you may find that your upper thigh and especially your seat muscles will also tense up and your seat bones will pop off the saddle.  The movement should instead come from the lower leg alone.
 
 
As the horse walks you will feel the body sway from side to side. If your lower back or stomach are tensed you will be stopping this movement and therefore stopping your horse!  Make sure that you relax and feel that swinging movement.  
 
This swing happens because as each hind leg in turn is lifted by the horse and moved forward that side of the horse becomes higher.  The same as your hips swing when you walk.  By feeling the sway of the horse's body from side to side you can tell which back leg is being lifted and is moving forward.  This is a very important lesson to learn and will be invaluable for you to be able to perform correct halts and transitions later on.  You should be able to call out which hind leg is off the ground.
 
At the same time practice feeling what is happenning to your seat bones and check your alignment frequently.  When the horse's back legs are in motion your hips\pelvis need to move in the same way to ensure that your seat bones remain in contact with the saddle.  Experiment with all of this to really understand what you need to do to ride in harmony with your horse.
 


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